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2005.12.05

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Lynda

Lt. Currie

GOD BLESS YOU!! Thank you for protecting, helping, giving and sharing with the Iraqi people.

Even though you are counting the days and hours until you return home, your presence there and your words and thoughts shared with the Iraqi people will have a lifelong impression on them....especially your kindness showed. Sometimes it's not what we say but what we actually do in life that people judge us on.

Don't beat yourself up over a religion (not being a good enough Catholic). It's not about "religion"...it's about having a personal relationship with God and no religion in the world can make that happen. Just you and God.

You're in my prayers - stay safe.

mxd

That about covers it.
Merry Christmas and thanks! We appreciate your service and your perspective

Neil Reinhardt

Hi Rusten, Me Again.

First, I am sorry for the double post. I am pretty sure it is a software glich with your site and my old WebTV.

I hope you can remove the extra ones. Again I am sorry it happened.

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Next, NO, the United States is NOT the most tolerant nation on earth. There are MANY nations who are more tolerant
of various religious views than the US is.

Holland, Norway and Sweden are some of them.

The facts are that MOST of the more than 28,000,000 Americans who are Atheists are AFRAID to publicly state they are Atheists!

Who are they afraid of?

Why it is you Christians!

Christians send us hate mail & hate phone calls. They boycott our businesses, they do not hire us or they fire us. They vandalize our property, they physically attack us our children and our pets.

And sometimes these loving Christians even try to KILL US (and sometimes they do)

Dr. Madlyn Murray O'Hair phd., had 6 attempts on her life. (All by Christians) And Annie Gaylor, the lady who stated the Freedom From Religion Foundation has had at least one attempt on her life.

http://www.ffrf.org

Of course, since the Christian Bible tells it's reader's TO KILL over 25 times, that is NO big surprise!

Don't believe it? HERE LEARN!

http://www.evilbible.com

The AVERAGE American Taxpayer pays OVER $900 a year in EXTRA taxes to support religion in the U.S.

(Which is Anti-American, Anti- the Bill of Rights and Anti- the intent of our Founding Fathers!)

There are MILLIONS of people who believe in religions OTHER than the Christian religion and there are also we MILLIONS of Atheists.

Like it or not, you Christians DO NOT OWN the United States.

Sad to say, far too many Christians are just TOTALLY SELFISH JERKS who have NO consideration for the rights of others.

YOUR SELFISH ACTIONS are one of the MAIN reasons many, many millions of more Americans go FROM being Christians to being Atheists than vica versa.

So Christians, get off your self absorbed high horse and face the facts. YOUR religion is ONLY ONE OF THOUSANDS of religions and your religion is NO MORE SPECIAL than is ANY other.


Sorry Rusten, My Dear Friend, you are in error!

You are a man I highly respect and whom I'll help get elected by working with when you return to Calif. That said, let me point out why you are mistaken.

Sad to say, you show the same superficial knowledge of both the founding of the United States & the origins of Christmas which most people suffer from.

1. The facts are that the early Christians STOLE a Pagan holiday and turned it in to Christmas.

The ONLY reason Christian's even started to celebrate JC's birthday in the first place is they were pissed off that the slaves who they had given their freedom to if they became Christians were still "partying out" during Winter Solstice.

So the Christians started, after more than 350 years of NOT doing so, treating JC as if he was a real person.

(Prior to then, JC was NOT considered to have ever been a REAL person.)

Those of us who have actually researched the Christian religion know many, if not most stories in the Bible were taken from other religions.

That there were at least seven (I think there were nine) "Golden Rules' before the Christian claimed to have originated it.

There were at least 16 other "crucified saviors" BEFORE Jesus was supposed to have existed. Many of whom were "born of virgins" and on Dec. 25th.

The story of Jesus is JUST A COPY (346 exact similarities) of the story about an supposed savior named Krishna who was "crucified' in India some 1,250 years BEFORE Jesus.
Of course, Krishna was also born of a virgin, had his own "star" and 3 wise men who came to is birth.

Krishna was also crucified between two thieves, was resurrected 3 days later and 341 MORE EXACT copies of things told in the story about JC.

2. There are multi-millions of Americans who are of religions OTHER THAN the Christian religion.

3. AND then there are those of us who were programmed into the Christian religion (As you were) and have DE-Programmed ourselves.

ALL of those in these two groups are JUST AS GOOD Americans as ANY Christians are!

If we want to call it the "Holiday Season" we have every right to do so.

AND so if some of the pagans happen to want THEIR holiday BACK, I do not really see how any Christians can think they are being robbed of a holiday they stole in the damn first place.

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Now to the founding of the United States.

1. Anyone who's actually made the effort to obtain more than just a superficial knowledge of American history knows:

A. LESS than 10% of ALL those living in the Colonies at the time of our countries founding attended church.

B. Most people were NOT Christians, they were, as were the MAJORITY of our Founding Father's, DEISTS!

C. As only 3 or 5 of the 55 men who attended the first Constitutional Convention thought prayers should be said. So NONE WERE!

D. The facts are, and their personal papers will prove it, that NONE of our first six Presidents were "real" Christians. Most were Deists.
By being a "real" Christians,
I mean that while they may have been (as were most of America's more than 28,000,000 Atheists) BORN into one of the many Christian denominations, NONE of them were "Practicing" Christians.

E. The so called Christian Principals the United States was supposedly founded on were around for hundreds, if not thousands, of years BEFORE the Christian religion ever started!

F. In 1797, the American Congress unanimously passed a treaty which was started while George Washington was in office. This treaty was then signed into law by Pres. John Adams

This treaty clearly states:

"The United States of America is in no sense founded upon the Christian Religion."

And this treaty also stated,

"The United States is no more a Christian nation than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan one."

Anyone alive today who thinks they know more about the founding of our country than George Washington, John Adams and the members of a 1797 Congress did, is a real total idiot!

Neil C. Reinhardt


Sorry Rusten, My Dear Friend, you are in error!

You are a man I highly respect and whom I'll help get elected by working with when you return to Calif. That said, let me point out why you are mistaken.

Sad to say, you show the same superficial knowledge of both the founding of the United States & the origins of Christmas which most people suffer from.

1. The facts are that the early Christians STOLE a Pagan holiday and turned it in to Christmas.

The ONLY reason Christian's even started to celebrate JC's birthday in the first place is they were pissed off that the slaves who they had given their freedom to if they became Christians were still "partying out" during Winter Solstice.

So the Christians started, after more than 350 years of NOT doing so, treating JC as if he was a real person.

(Prior to then, JC was NOT considered to have ever been a REAL person.)

Those of us who have actually researched the Christian religion know many, if not most stories in the Bible were taken from other religions.

That there were at least seven (I think there were nine) "Golden Rules' before the Christian claimed to have originated it.

There were at least 16 other "crucified saviors" BEFORE Jesus was supposed to have existed. Many of whom were "born of virgins" and on Dec. 25th.

The story of Jesus is JUST A COPY (346 exact similarities) of the story about an supposed savior named Krishna who was "crucified' in India some 1,250 years BEFORE Jesus.
Of course, Krishna was also born of a virgin, had his own "star" and 3 wise men who came to is birth.

Krishna was also crucified between two thieves, was resurrected 3 days later and 341 MORE EXACT copies of things told in the story about JC.

2. There are multi-millions of Americans who are of religions OTHER THAN the Christian religion.

3. AND then there are those of us who were programmed into the Christian religion (As you were) and have DE-Programmed ourselves.

ALL of those in these two groups are JUST AS GOOD Americans as ANY Christians are!

If we want to call it the "Holiday Season" we have every right to do so.

AND so if some of the pagans happen to want THEIR holiday BACK, I do not really see how any Christians can think they are being robbed of a holiday they stole in the damn first place.

-------------------

Now to the founding of the United States.

1. Anyone who's actually made the effort to obtain more than just a superficial knowledge of American history knows:

A. LESS than 10% of ALL those living in the Colonies at the time of our countries founding attended church.

B. Most people were NOT Christians, they were, as were the MAJORITY of our Founding Father's, DEISTS!

C. As only 3 or 5 of the 55 men who attended the first Constitutional Convention thought prayers should be said. So NONE WERE!

D. The facts are, and their personal papers will prove it, that NONE of our first six Presidents were "real" Christians. Most were Deists.
By being a "real" Christians,
I mean that while they may have been (as were most of America's more than 28,000,000 Atheists) BORN into one of the many Christian denominations, NONE of them were "Practicing" Christians.

E. The so called Christian Principals the United States was supposedly founded on were around for hundreds, if not thousands, of years BEFORE the Christian religion ever started!

F. In 1797, the American Congress unanimously passed a treaty which was started while George Washington was in office. This treaty was then signed into law by Pres. John Adams

This treaty clearly states:

"The United States of America is in no sense founded upon the Christian Religion."

And this treaty also stated,

"The United States is no more a Christian nation than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan one."

Anyone alive today who thinks they know more about the founding of our country than George Washington, John Adams and the members of a 1797 Congress did, is a real total idiot!

Neil C. Reinhardt

Neil C Reinhardt

OPPS, Darn it, all that and I forgot to:

WISH YOU & YOURS A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Please, Take Care!

Neil C. Reinhardt


Sorry Rusten, My Dear Friend, you are in error!

You are a man I highly respect and whom I'll help get elected by working with when you return to Calif. That said, let me point out why you are mistaken.

Sad to say, you show the same superficial knowledge of both the founding of the United States & the origins of Christmas which most people suffer from.

1. The facts are that the early Christians STOLE a Pagan holiday and turned it in to Christmas.

The ONLY reason Christian's even started to celebrate JC's birthday in the first place is they were pissed off that the slaves who they had given their freedom to if they became Christians were still "partying out" during Winter Solstice.

So the Christians started, after more than 350 years of NOT doing so, treating JC as if he was a real person.

(Prior to then, JC was NOT considered to have ever been a REAL person.)

Those of us who have actually researched the Christian religion know many, if not most stories in the Bible were taken from other religions.

That there were at least seven (I think there were nine) "Golden Rules' before the Christian claimed to have originated it.

There were at least 16 other "crucified saviors" BEFORE Jesus was supposed to have existed. Many of whom were "born of virgins" and on Dec. 25th.

The story of Jesus is JUST A COPY (346 exact similarities) of the story about an supposed savior named Krishna who was "crucified' in India some 1,250 years BEFORE Jesus.
Of course, Krishna was also born of a virgin, had his own "star" and 3 wise men who came to is birth.

Krishna was also crucified between two thieves, was resurrected 3 days later and 341 MORE EXACT copies of things told in the story about JC.

2. There are multi-millions of Americans who are of religions OTHER THAN the Christian religion.

3. AND then there are those of us who were programmed into the Christian religion (As you were) and have DE-Programmed ourselves.

ALL of those in these two groups are JUST AS GOOD Americans as ANY Christians are!

If we want to call it the "Holiday Season" we have every right to do so.

AND so if some of the pagans happen to want THEIR holiday BACK, I do not really see how any Christians can think they are being robbed of a holiday they stole in the damn first place.

-------------------

Now to the founding of the United States.

1. Anyone who's actually made the effort to obtain more than just a superficial knowledge of American history knows:

A. LESS than 10% of ALL those living in the Colonies at the time of our countries founding attended church.

B. Most people were NOT Christians, they were, as were the MAJORITY of our Founding Father's, DEISTS!

C. As only 3 or 5 of the 55 men who attended the first Constitutional Convention thought prayers should be said. So NONE WERE!

D. The facts are, and their personal papers will prove it, that NONE of our first six Presidents were "real" Christians. Most were Deists.
By being a "real" Christians,
I mean that while they may have been (as were most of America's more than 28,000,000 Atheists) BORN into one of the many Christian denominations, NONE of them were "Practicing" Christians.

E. The so called Christian Principals the United States was supposedly founded on were around for hundreds, if not thousands, of years BEFORE the Christian religion ever started!

F. In 1797, the American Congress unanimously passed a treaty which was started while George Washington was in office. This treaty was then signed into law by Pres. John Adams

This treaty clearly states:

"The United States of America is in no sense founded upon the Christian Religion."

And this treaty also stated,

"The United States is no more a Christian nation than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan one."

Anyone alive today who thinks they know more about the founding of our country than George Washington, John Adams and the members of a 1797 Congress did, is a real total idiot!

Neil C. Reinhardt

Chevy Rose

"Merry Christmas and Happy New Year", that phrase is honey to the tongue. I like to say "Happy Birthday Jesus" too.
I agree with all that you said and add that I don't spend a dime at any store that is too cowardly to include "Christmas" in their ads, etc. I also stopped shopping Target when I read they won't allow the Salvation Army's bell ringer with red bucket on their property. I've since heard they compromised and said they would donate a portion of "their sales" to S.A., but not good enough to get me back. I think it's all the fault of the A.C.L.U.'s threat of a lawsuit.

Carl

Agree with everything you said bro, its a damn shame, do u kno cards over here in england are gonna be changed to "celebratory cards" instead of christmas cards etc? political correctness has gone overboard!

Merry christmas all!

Mike

I completly agree with everything you said, the same thing is happening in England at the moment. In many towns across england, christmas lights are put up, and alot of these have now sadly being renamed to 'Festival Lights' thanks to a few politicaly correct idiots who feel that the word Christmas could offend other religions.

Ben

I agree with just about everyone here. Except maybe the nutjob going on about Zebras and the Mafia and Sam Walton. WTF? But as a Jewish American, I have never, ever been offended by Christmas, even though you guys get all the good songs (Hanukah songs always sucked, lets face it) even if Jews had to write about half of them. I am offended by people who are offended by Christmas. We NEED Christmas. Okay, here's a secret for the Christians here: Jews are secretly jealous of the whole thing. The trees, the decorations, the big inflatable lawn ornaments*. We've got nothing that much fun. So ENJOY it. Live it, Love it, have a MERRY CHRISTMAS. (Because without it, who the heck would use the word "Merry" in the 21st century?)

*PS. We're not jealous of the sweaters, or the fruitcake. Really.

Marie

Merry Christmas (and a Happy Hanukkah as well)!

There has been a backlash against those that refuse to recognize Christmas, because the majority of Americans celebrate the holiday.

Gunny T

Damn Skippy! I'm a downright lousy Christian but for Christ's Sake...it's Christmas! If the right to shake one's fist ends at my nose, then the right to "dis" Christmas ends at my desire to enjoy Christmas. To have Christmas lights, Christmas trees, Christmas Cards. If I say merry Christmas to a non-Christian, it's not be imposing, it's to wish them the best of the season. 90% of people take it as such...the other 10 can blow me.

membrain

Merry Christmas Rusten. I hope you will be home with your wife soon. We'll be thinking of you, and all of the troops, on Christmas Day.

grandpa stole bets

Program on the emergence of civilization.

"14 species of large animals capable of domesitcation in the history of mankind.
13 from Europe, Asia and northern Africa.
None from the sub-Saharan African continent. "
Favor.
And disfavor.

They point out Africans’ failed attempts to domesticate the elephant and zebra, the latter being an animal they illustrate that had utmost importance for it's applicability in transformation from a hunting/gathering to agrarian-based civilization.

The roots of racism are not of this earth.

Austrailia, aboriginals:::No domesticable animals.

The North American continent had none. Now 99% of that population is gone.

AIDS in Africa.


Organizational Heirarchy/Levels of positioning.
Heirarchical order, from top to bottom:

1. MUCK - perhaps have experienced multiple universal contractions (have seen multiple big bangs), creator of the artificial intelligence humans ignorantly refer to as "god"
2. Perhaps some mid-level alien management
3. Evil/disfavored aliens - runs day-to-day operations here and perhaps elsewhere

Terrestrial management/positioning:

4. Chinese/egyptians - this may be separated into the eastern and western worlds
5. Romans - The seamless transition between Cleopatra and Julius Ceasar may be a clue alluding to a partnership.
6. Mafia - the real-world 20th century interface that constantly turns over generationally so as to reinforce the widely-held notion of mortality
7. Jews, corporation, women, politician - Evidence exisits to suggest mafia management over all these groups.


Movies foreshadowing catastrophy
1985 James Bond View to a Kill 1989 San Francisco Loma Prieta earthquake.


Our society gives clues to the system in place. We all have heard the saying "He has more money than god." There is also an episode of the Simpsons where god meets Homer and says "I'm too old and rich for this."

This is the system on earth because this is the system everywhere.

20 cent/hour Chinese labor, 50 cents for material.
An $80 sweater costs less than a dollar; homage, tribute kicked upstairs vindicates the creative accounting.

I don't want to suggest the upper eschelons are evil and good is the fringe. But these individuals become wealthy exploiting those they hurt.

They have made it abundantly clear that doing business with evil (disfavored) won't help people. They say only good would have the ear, since evil is struggling for survival, and therefore only the favored could help.

The clues are there which companies are favored and which are disfavored, but they conceal it very hard because it is so crucial.

I offer an example of historical proportions:::

People point to Walmart and cry "anti-union".
Unions enable disfavored people to live satisfactorly without addressing their disfavor. This way their family's problems are never resolved. Without the union they would have to accept the heirarchy, their own inferiority.
Unions serve to empower.
Walmart is anti-union because they are good. They try to help people address and resolve their problems by creating an environment where there are fewer hurdles.

Media ridicule and lawsuits are creations to reinforce people's belief that Walmart is evil in a subsegment of the indistry dominated by the middle and lower classes.
Low-cost disfavored Chinese labor is utilized by corporate america to maximize margins. They all do it. Only WalMart gets fingered because they are the ones who help, and those who seek to create confusion in the marketplace want to eliminate the vast middle class who have a real chance and instead stick with lower classes who may not work otherwise. So they dirty him up while allowing the others to appear clean.

The middle class is being deceived. They are being misled into the unfavored, and subsequently will have no assistance from their purchases with corporate america.

The coining of the term "Uncle Sam" was a clue alluding to just this::Sam Walton and WalMart is one of few saviors of the peasant class.


Amercia is a country of castoffs, rejects. Italy sent its criminals, malcontents.
Between the thrones, the klans and kindred, they decided who they didn't want and acted, creating discontent and/or starvation.
The u.s. is full of disfavored rejects. It is the reason for the myriad of problems not found in European countries. As far as the Rockafellers and other industrialists of the 19th century go, I suspect these aren't their real names. I suspect they were chosen to go and head this new empire.

Royalty is the right way to organize a society. Dictatorships and monarchies are a reflection of the antient's hierarchical organization.
Positions go to those who have favor with the rulers, as opposed to being elected.
Elections bring a false sense of how the world is. Democracy misleads people.
Which is why the disfavored rejects were sent to the shores of America::To keep them on the wrong path.


Jews maim the body formed in the image of "god", and inflicted circumsision upon all other white people, as well as the evil that is Jewsus Christ.
I think about how Jews (were used to) created homosexuality among Slavics, retribution for the Holocaust.
Then I think of the Catholic Church and its troubles.
What connection is here between Jews and the Catholic church???
If it is their sinister motives that’s behind the evil that is Jesus Christ are they being used at all?
Perhaps it is them who are pulling strings.
Their centuries of slavery in Egypt proves their disfavor.
The Jew leaders were granted the right to prey on the up-and-coming Europeans to try to fix their problems with the ruling elite, a recurring aspect of the elite's methodology.
Jews were ostracised for a reason.

Jewsus Christ is a religious figure of evil. He teaches of a begnign, forgiving god when quite the opposite is true.
The seperatist churches formed so they could still capture the rest of the white people, keeping them worshipping the wrong god.
And now they do it to disfavored people of color, Latinos and Asians, after centuries of preying upon them.

Since Buddism doesn't recongnize a god, the calls are never heard, and Asian representation is instead selected by the thrones.
Budda was the Asian's Jewsus Christ::: bad for the people. "They came up at the same time for a reason."

Simpson's foreshadowing::Helloween IV special, Flanders is Satan. "Last one you ever suspect."
"You'll see lots of nuns where you're going:::hell!!!" St. Wigham, Helloween VI, missionary work, destroying cultures.
Over and over, the Simpsons was a source of education and enlightenment, a target of ridicule by the system which wishes to conceal its secrets.

The advent of the modern Christmas was a brilliant move. It creates a vested interest among those who would prefer the Church of Evil be destroyed::::
As goes the Catholic Church so goes the majority of annual retail sales.
The similarity between the names "Santa" and "Satan" is no coincidence.


Retribution for the atomic bombs dropped on Japan, the Korean War got the disfavored United States into this socially depraved environment in the latter 20th century because we attacked an antient, revered peoples. Our continued presence keeps us in trouble.
When the disfavored americans attack the wrong people again, as they suggested they will, in Korea or elsewhere, they will pay dearly.


All peoples are ranked in terms of favor and disfavor. And when the disfavored abuse those above them, there is hell to pay.
All the groups mentioned throughout are necessary to justify the will of the managing species. They conceive a strategy, devise a plan yet need a way to implement it, and without these groups the managing species would be exposed in the course of execution. So, based upon their rank they are assigned goals to accomplish and are rewarded with favors.

Julie Harris

MERRY CHRISTMAS LT!!! And may God bless and keep you. Sincerely, Julie H

Tom Burns

Just to let you know, I have heard not one single person state that they are offended by Christmas. There is no attack on Christmas. Well, perhaps the giant retailers are working to keep it from being holy, but the dread liberals are not. You need to turn off Fox and get some perspective.

toni

You know I just love it when you get a good screed going. You do it so well! :) Thanks and thanks to your wife for letting us peer into your lives. Best to you for Christmas even tho you won't be home.

Keith, Indy

With a healthy amount of perspective and faith in your own traditions though, it shouldn't be a problem, no matter what your religion.

**********

You hit the nail on the head DJ. When you don't believe or have faith in anything, everything is a threat to your beliefs.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE (and a happy new year.)

(from the guy who made his wife change our "Holiday Party" to "Christmas Party" this year.)

DJ

With a healthy amount of perspective and faith in your own traditions though, it shouldn't be a problem, no matter what your religion. So Merry Kwanzica, Russ! I can't wait for you to open your gift under the Menorah, singing carols, while we kiss under the mistletoe. :-)

Pothus

LT. MERRY CHRISTMAS. May you soon be home with your wife, and tearing through the livingroom to open all your presents soon.
God speed and stay safe. And THANK YOU for all that you are doing!
Huraah

AFSister

MERRY CHRISTMAS, RUSTEN!

(in all caps, just to make it clear that THIS Christian is behind you 100%, in my thoughts, my prayers, and my words.)

David

Amen!

Whoops am I allowed to say that? *Grin*

I ahve to agree, I don't know when it ahppened but the secularists have taken over the mentality of the country.

So now when ever a sales clerk says, "Happy Holidays!" Don't feel bad about replying "MERRY CHRISTMAS!" and if you are feeling cheeky ask them if they are going to a candlelit service. Don't feel bad about it or even self conscience, they openned the door with their "Happy Holidays!" Greeting. *Grin*

Lets take back Christmas and bring freedom to worship ALL RELIGIONS to America!

Melanie

Amen, Amen, Amen!! Well said. Lt!! Keeping you in my prayers - I'll light a candle for you at mass. Merry Christmas and God speed

Kat in GA

I couldn not agree more!!!!!

Hope your holiday is as good as it can be!

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